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Licensing

Post by piratefm » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:59 pm

Just curious, can you broadcast on FM in the UK without a license at all..? I mean at very low power before you need an Ofcom license and if so what is that? Or is a license needed regardless of power.

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Re: Licensing

Post by fmuser877 » Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:10 pm

their plenty of little car TX ones about I hear them all the time in the car.
could be like these

Pure Highway 600 In-Car DAB+/DAB Digital Radio FM Adapter with Spotify Control and Bluetooth


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Re: Licensing

Post by thewisepranker » Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:06 pm

piratefm wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:59 pm Just curious, can you broadcast on FM in the UK without a license at all..? I mean at very low power before you need an Ofcom license and if so what is that?
50 nW.

Sources: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... mption.pdf
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... r-2030.pdf

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Re: Licensing

Post by radionortheast » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:19 am

Unfortunately theres noway to get a licence to broadcast a few watts out of your bedroom, if there was I would of got one by now!, the only route is community radio route, involves a lot of money having to have studios which isn’t practical for people who just want to get on air. They are doing a trial of low power fm, with transmissions up to 2 watts, as far as I know it is only open to organisations, things like universities couldn’t go the community route they couldn’t have people outside coming in. We don’t have part 15 there noway for them to get on air, even thought they would be only transmitting a few 100 meters like the York one are blocked by sutton coldfield within a few 100 meters, they have to have a licence as someone could just report them, unfortunately theres just a lot of bureaucracy, I know its silly.

You can use a small mp3 transmitter, most are over the power limit, on a car radio you might beable to pick it up afew 100 meters away, but its not what you’d called coverage, realisticly thats the only thing you can do reading around here and other places, think the general idea is that transmitting on fm a few watts if you left it going all the time you’d problably a knock on the door, in a city would be out of the question depends on your location.

I’d hate to say it was safe for someone to do this, I don’t personally believe alot of the hysteria I read here or on another forum, about there been monitoring stations every few miles, most spectrum use is indecline services have vacated the spectrum, here there are no city based pirates that I hear, what is there to monitor, fm use is decline against online listening. Alot of it dosen’t make logical sense to me, there often seems an attitude to discourage people from broadcasting on pirate forums, I don’t think what we need, we need more people broadcasting I can’t see them ever changing anything other wise.

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Re: Licensing

Post by Persona Non Grata » Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:47 pm

I think people should be discouraged from transmitting directly from their bedrooms (in the UK at least) because the chances of being busted are ridiculouly high and in such instances OFCOM can take pretty much everything.

That's why most UK pirates locate their transmitters on rooftop squats (well that and coverage) and run remote studios (preferably online for plausible deniability).

While I'd love to see more stations on air and more opportunities for people to get into radio I don't see the point in encouraging foolhardy behaviour and the poor sods involved losing entire music collections and all their electronics (not to mention their homes smashed up).

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Re: Licensing

Post by radionortheast » Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:28 pm

Not everyone can do that, you have the whole breaking and entering, putting something up without permision, 100’s of watts problalby overloading the front end of tvs in the towerblock, the samething would happen if someone put out 100’s of watts from their bedroom, think were talking about something that covers the neighbourhood. I just think the lpfm trial should open to everyone, there would no grey area with this, just keeping everyone off the airwaves until theres nothing there on it, is daft, what happened to am happening fm again. There are no towerblock radio stations I know about at least within a 50 mile radius, I guess the people who did, don't want to do it, got fed up been raided and the same pattern happening..saying people should to do that I don't think is the right thing to do and shouldn't be encouraged.

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Re: Licensing

Post by FMEnjoyer » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:26 pm

People should probably not broadcast with any sense of regularity, I agree. Once in a blue moon, chances of getting caught next to zero.

The problem would be sprogs and band blot outs from the worst of the Chinese rigs with the QN8027 in.

Truth is it is time that Ofcom allowed 500mW with a super clean PLL. Music only, as we already know no politics would never work.
There is no incentive though cause you can do a hell of a lot with 500mW.

Basically hobby stations when you think about it it is not really worth it anyway. Without being on long hours no one would hear you and is it the best use of your time with an ever present risk ?

It's more of a fantasy in the mind than a viable thing to do. Few even listen to the junk radio that is legal and on anyway.

When I eat dinner I sit and flick through, bad music, adverts, boring mind numbing chat. I wonder why i even bother myself at times. Off is the more common position than not. But the anaorak side is kind of fun and keeps you coming back i suppose.

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