Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by BriansBrain » Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:45 pm

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Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:17 pm
Lol I was tricking you to see if you would slip up with the fake to genuine ones. OK so it's official they Aliexpress chips are only doing 20 Watts. I've never tried Aliexpress chips to be honest.
Well I found many supliers are selling these fake only 20W output chips now :o

Look for the production number under MRF9180 > RR1627E
AIICKING - MRF9180 - RR1627E-S.jpg
These are the bad batch :tup
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Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:15 pm

BriansBrain wrote:
Electronically wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:17 pm
Lol I was tricking you to see if you would slip up with the fake to genuine ones. OK so it's official they Aliexpress chips are only doing 20 Watts. I've never tried Aliexpress chips to be honest.
Well I found many supliers are selling these fake only 20W output chips now :o

Look for the production number under MRF9180 > RR1627E
AIICKING - MRF9180 - RR1627E-S.jpg
These are the bad batch :tup
Hmm OK. I'm a little bit baffled then. Are you saying you have it running at 26v with a 15watt drive to run the amp? If so are you doing as little as 36watts?.

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Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by RF-Head » Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:24 pm

So you drive the 15W board with 1W?
The amp needs 0dBm input !! 1mW not 1W
and also 100% sure that it will sprog on lower power output and how do you know that it is clean? do you use a spectrum analyzer?
The 9180 needs only 1-1,5W input so you can drive it direct from the !w exciter
How i know about the 15W board...
It's part of my own design of a 15W transmitter and someone used a part of it to make a 15W amp
Also the amp needs to be on double site pcb and not signle

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by BriansBrain » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:43 pm

Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:15 pm
BriansBrain wrote:
Electronically wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:17 pm
Lol I was tricking you to see if you would slip up with the fake to genuine ones. OK so it's official they Aliexpress chips are only doing 20 Watts. I've never tried Aliexpress chips to be honest.
Well I found many supliers are selling these fake only 20W output chips now :o

Look for the production number under MRF9180 > RR1627E

These are the bad batch :tup
Hmm OK. I'm a little bit baffled then. Are you saying you have it running at 26v with a 15watt drive to run the amp? If so are you doing as little as 36watts?.
Did you take a look at the thread I linked... did you look here >>> viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2373
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:44 pm

BriansBrain wrote:
Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:15 pm
BriansBrain wrote: Well I found many supliers are selling these fake only 20W output chips now :o

Look for the production number under MRF9180 > RR1627E

These are the bad batch :tup
Hmm OK. I'm a little bit baffled then. Are you saying you have it running at 26v with a 15watt drive to run the amp? If so are you doing as little as 36watts?.
Did you take a look at the thread I linked... did you look here >>> viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2373
The link is no working

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Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by BriansBrain » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:57 pm

RF-Head wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:24 pm
So you drive the 15W board with 1W?
Less than 1W
RF-Head wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:24 pm
The amp needs 0dBm input !! 1mW not 1W
I'm sure in the advert fort the board said more than 1mW drive :cry:
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Do you use a spectrum analyzer?
Yes :tup
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:24 pm
The 9180 needs only 1-1,5W input so you can drive it direct from the !w exciter
I wanted variable power output ;)
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by BriansBrain » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:01 pm

Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:44 pm
Did you take a look at the thread I linked... did you look here >>> viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2373
The link is no working

:smoke
Look for my thread called...
New MRF9180 draws 8A @ 26V but only puts out 20W

>>>> viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2373
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Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:02 pm

Electronically wrote:
BriansBrain wrote:
Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:15 pm
Hmm OK. I'm a little bit baffled then. Are you saying you have it running at 26v with a 15watt drive to run the amp? If so are you doing as little as 36watts?.
Did you take a look at the thread I linked... did you look here >>> viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2373
The link is no working

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OK link is working I see the post.

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Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:12 pm

Electronically wrote:
Electronically wrote:
BriansBrain wrote: Did you take a look at the thread I linked... did you look here >>> viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2373
The link is no working

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OK link is working I see the post.

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So If we all avoid the number 0 with a line through it. we will get all the power. I'll attempt to get one of these.

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Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Bton-FM » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:14 pm

The confusing things is that the picture on the enigma website for MRF9180...........has a line through the zero!!!! :?:
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Re: RE: Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:17 pm

Bton-FM wrote:The confusing things is that the picture on the enigma website for MRF9180...........has a line through the zero!!!! :?:
as Brian says they only produce around 20 Watts. I'll no be buying from egnima or alexia express. There fake.

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Re: RE: Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Bton-FM » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:29 pm

Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:17 pm
Bton-FM wrote:The confusing things is that the picture on the enigma website for MRF9180...........has a line through the zero!!!! :?:
as Brian says they only produce around 20 Watts. I'll no be buying from egnima or alexia express. There fake.

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I haven't the foggiest at this point but the ones in enigma shop are Freescale NOT Motorola so maybe they are supposed to have the line ??


There does seem to be some real ones on Ali:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3295914 ... hweb201603_

Does anyone know why all aliexpress listings have the logos blurred?

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Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:35 pm

Bton-FM wrote:
Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:17 pm
Bton-FM wrote:The confusing things is that the picture on the enigma website for MRF9180...........has a line through the zero!!!! :?:
as Brian says they only produce around 20 Watts. I'll no be buying from egnima or alexia express. There fake.

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I haven't the foggiest at this point but the ones in enigma shop are Freescale NOT Motorola so maybe they are supposed to have the line ??


There does seem to be some real ones on Ali:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3295914 ... hweb201603_

Does anyone know why all aliexpress listings have the logos blurred?
I haven't any idea either bton. It probably explains how so many have failed to survive at full power. With it been blurred sounds like they are fake so you take a gamble or anyone.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Bton-FM » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:42 pm

Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:35 pm
Bton-FM wrote:
Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:17 pm
as Brian says they only produce around 20 Watts. I'll no be buying from egnima or alexia express. There fake.

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I haven't the foggiest at this point but the ones in enigma shop are Freescale NOT Motorola so maybe they are supposed to have the line ??


There does seem to be some real ones on Ali:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3295914 ... hweb201603_

Does anyone know why all aliexpress listings have the logos blurred?
I haven't any idea either bton. It probably explains how so many have failed to survive at full power. With it been blurred sounds like they are fake so you take a gamble or anyone.

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we should all probably stop dicking around with these transistors and go and sub in the ones Gareth suggested haha.

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Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Bton-FM » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:44 pm

Just realised I don't actually know where I put the transistors in my kit ........
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Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:48 pm

Yup go with Gareths idea.

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Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:13 pm

The device says 40 Watts on datasheet.
Now what if this was working in ssb would this not make it 150watts?. So to me these things on fm should not be anymore than 40 Watts.

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Re: Mrf9180 Keeps blowing!!

Post by Bton-FM » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:40 pm

Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:13 pm
The device says 40 Watts on datasheet.
Now what if this was working in ssb would this not make it 150watts?. So to me these things on fm should not be anymore than 40 Watts.

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Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:41 pm

Bton-FM wrote:
Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:13 pm
The device says 40 Watts on datasheet.
Now what if this was working in ssb would this not make it 150watts?. So to me these things on fm should not be anymore than 40 Watts.

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Post by Electronically » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:44 pm

Electronically wrote:
Bton-FM wrote:
Electronically wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:13 pm
The device says 40 Watts on datasheet.
Now what if this was working in ssb would this not make it 150watts?. So to me these things on fm should not be anymore than 40 Watts.

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Reason I say it does 150watts is because on ssb you wouldn't constantly key in on ssb is why they survive there. But if we are on fm constantly on 150watts its bount to pop. So 40 to me sounds about right for fm.

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