Decent Music downloads

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Decent Music downloads

Post by sinus trouble » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:15 pm

Hello Necks :)

I find it so infuriating that I want to go legal with music downloads yet I am faced with a database of either POP crap, some clip or 'Radio Edit' that they have from a compilation CD??

Most of my MP3s are ripped from my vinyls (Good old 12" mixes) I refuse to subscribe to something that has no knowledge of ALL music!

Does anyone have any advice? Discogs is the only site to list every track I have ever searched for but does not offer a download service??
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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by thewisepranker » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:06 am

Why even bother? All of the royalties from the legal tunes you buy just go to Sony or Warner anyway, regardless of what label the tune you buy is on. Those are an absolutely hateful bunch, trying to ban everything for copyright infringement and have even had the law changed to block you from uploading anything that might be copyrighted material, which is really dangerous ground i.e. mass censorship.

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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by fmuser877 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:38 am

I download from mix cloud downloader or use 4K Video Downloader but check the quality on the youtube tracks first. some only come out of the right speaker. :D

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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by sinus trouble » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:14 pm

Thanks for the advice!

I have had a few confrontations with WMG and fair use is not in their vocabulary! They even had a representative visit the local shops in my area! Any that were playing a radio or music was threatened with a fine! :evil:

I guess I had good intentions to do the right thing! They deserve no respect!!!! :lol:
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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by Albert H » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:44 am

Music Copyright, Licencing, Performing Rights and all the rest is a complete racket! I remember - pre-internet - when the Performing Rights Society made sure that artistes earned money for radio plays, record sales and so on. These days, they're useless and just try to force pubs, clubs, shops and other public spaces to pay randomly "calculated" charges for the "right" to play music in public.

I've discussed this at length with plenty of musicians, and most of them would just like to have their music heard by as wide an audience as possible. It doesn't matter to them if some people hear their music "free" - if the listeners like what they hear, their enjoyment will frequently be turned into CD or download sales!
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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by fmuser877 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:30 pm

Oh no 320K option seems to have disappeared from 4k downloader I only get 48K 96K 128K which sucks now is any one else getting this and how else to download youtube videos?

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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by fmuser877 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:34 pm

Maybe they changed it but this has a 256K option
https://www.4kdownload.com/products/pro ... utubetomp3

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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by BriansBrain » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:51 am

fmuser877 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:34 pm
Maybe they changed it but this has a 256K option
https://www.4kdownload.com/products/pro ... utubetomp3
Sorry...
No matter what system you use to transfer a YouTube into an audio file you will only end up with low quality :smoke

It may look like you have a 256K Quality Rip - However inside the 256k mp3 it's still a 128kbs

Just drop one in Spek and see for yourself

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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by neckertude » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:33 pm

Cheers Brian, nice tool!

I use Beatport for buying music, especially dance stuff. You’ll find 12” mixes of most. For an extra quid you can have WAV or AIFF

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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by BriansBrain » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:58 pm

neckertude wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:33 pm
Cheers Brian, nice tool!
Welcome...
Here are the Bit-Rate -to- Cut-Off -to- Compression Ratio Numbers for the most common Bit-Rates

Code: Select all

Bit-Rate	Cut-Off		Compression Ratio
1411kbps	20kHz		1:1
320kbps		19.5kHz		1:4.4
192kbps		18kHz		1:7.3
160kbps		17kHz		1:8.8
128kbps		16kHz		1:11
96kbps		15kHz		1:14.7
64kbps		11kHz		1:22
32kbps		5kHz 		1:44
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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by wazza » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:29 pm

Yes, as the old saying goes, you can't polish a turd, and it's particularly applicable to transcoding MP3!

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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by sinus trouble » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:16 pm

Interesting stuff Brian! :)

I would assume that 128 15khz cutoff is adequate for music production? But It still sounds awful!! :lol:

When out DJing I find the crowd don't seem to notice the quality 160kbps and upwards? However I am never satisfied unless it is 256 atleast!

WAV is great for sound editing and production but takes up so much precious space, Even some CDJs struggle to load them up for cueing!

I think Beatport is one of my favourites! Juno Records also did MP3s for a while but seem to have stopped?
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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by Maximus » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:56 pm

Soulseek is good for downloading tunes.


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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by radium98 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:46 pm

yes Maximus i used it too from time to time

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Re: Decent Music downloads

Post by thewisepranker » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:06 pm

BriansBrain wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:58 pm

Welcome...
Here are the Bit-Rate -to- Cut-Off -to- Compression Ratio Numbers for the most common Bit-Rates

Code: Select all

Bit-Rate	Cut-Off		Compression Ratio
1411kbps	20kHz		1:1
320kbps		19.5kHz		1:4.4
192kbps		18kHz		1:7.3
160kbps		17kHz		1:8.8
128kbps		16kHz		1:11
96kbps		15kHz		1:14.7
64kbps		11kHz		1:22
32kbps		5kHz 		1:44
:tup
That's all well and good but I would imagine that no more than 5% of the people that use this forum can even hear 17 kHz and above.

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