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PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:26 pm
by shpongler
Hi,
I am wondering if someone could help me with finding the pll look up table for this exciter?
I did get help on the old radionecks forum but unfortunately I didn't save the information

Many thanks

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Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:41 pm
by RF-Head
Was it not something like
all switch of 87,50
and then
0,1-0,2-0,4-0,8-1,6-3,2-6,4-12,8
for switch
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

so if you want the pll on 94.2
94,2 - 87,5 =6,7 so switch 7 and 1 and 2 must be on

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:53 pm
by teckniqs
That is a D*** B**man PLL, I'm sure if you can tell us what it's currently set to we could easily work out how it's done looking at the switch positions for its current frequency??

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:32 am
by shpongler
Hi there,
It is currently set to 106.5
off,on,on,on,on,on,off,on

Cheers lads!

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:03 am
by shpongler
RF-Head, your method seems to add up for the frequency it's set to. :tup I'll try retune it when I get my hands on it.

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:28 am
by teckniqs
He's called RF Head for a very good reason. :tup

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:53 pm
by s2000
Is there any other components on the underside of this board? Looks very minimalistic, what chip(s) it use?

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:40 pm
by Dai Pole
s2000 wrote:Is there any other components on the underside of this board? Looks very minimalistic, what chip(s) it use?
I asked the same question on the original Radionecks forum. Apparently there is some surface mount stuff on the other side - I presume the PLL chip, and the VCO.

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:01 pm
by teckniqs
IIRC you are correct, there is a small SM chip on the underside.

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:44 pm
by Shedbuilt
I would think a chip, and probably a few transistors (about 3 at a guess)......
Quite possibly a varicap or two. I can't see any in the piccy.

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:47 am
by RF-Head
1x mc145170
3x bfr93 or SMT version of a mpsh10
2x varicap
Thats all :)

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:16 am
by Shedbuilt
RF-Head wrote:1x mc145170
3x bfr93 or SMT version of a mpsh10
2x varicap
Thats all :)
Looks like the RF circuitry, is either the same, or very similar, to his old (pre SM) driver boards; replacing what used to be BSX20 / 2N2369, with BFR93 on the track side.

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:23 pm
by SolderingOn
Does anyone have a circuit diagram / PCB layout for this design? Even a detailed closeup of each side of the board with be useful. Cheers :tup

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:34 pm
by pjeva
Layout is very similar (or same) as Broadcast Warehouse 1W Pll Exciter... there is full schematic on internet, just google it ;-)

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:30 pm
by SolderingOn
Thanks pjeva.

Were you referring to this BW unit....

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.... 'cos they look quite different?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:14 pm
by pjeva
Well, Broadcast Warehouse had few designs of pcb, mostly different in pll section. But i think think that is the one. Take this with reserve because i haven't seen board from original post in life ;-)

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:43 pm
by Dai Pole
From what I've seen, I think all the “London Rigs” are based around the same circuit with maybe a few difference between them. Take a look at the thread Analyser's Draw Of Pirate History, and you'll see they all pretty much use the same components and layout, with differences in the PLL or single/double sided. If you have the schematic Rig Doctor put out on the original Radionecks you should be able to understand the rest. If you don't have it I can repost it?!

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:25 am
by pjeva
One more difference would be half-frequency and at-frequency designs. Dai Pole, if you have schematic, please upload...

Re: PLL Chart for this exciter

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:14 pm
by shorty
rigdoctors schematic

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:34 pm
by pjeva
Just to mention, for users that don't know already, all transistors are NPN, thats error in the drawing...